Russ Carnahan Recess Rally footage

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Hundreds, a little over 1,000 at its peak, showed up on the corner of Brentwood and Manchester at Russ Carnahan’s West County congressional office to voice the dissent against the Democrats’s healthcare legislation which overlooks tort reform, does nothing to lift small business out of the business of healthcare, makes no allowances for portable coverage or purchasing coverage across state lines, and instead focuses on increasing executive authority rather than health.

Bill, myself, and others with the St. Louis Tea Party Coalition attended the recess rally at Rep. Russ Carnahan’s office at Brentwood and Manchester in St. Louis:

In Crystal City a couple hundred patriots cheer for a soldier they see walking across the street:

The good folks at ACTIVE have some great video today too. These pro-HCReformers were pleasant with which to speak, even if we completely disagree with them:

Great roundup from Jim Hoft, who attended the rally outside Sen. Claire McCaskill’s office in University City.

I sincerely tried to ask the few pro-HB 3200 people there to give me 10 reasons why they support the legislation or a single-payer system. I tried asking four different people and no one would answer me, like this young man. He had a good, compassionate heart, but just had a very dangerous means to the end he envisioned. Jesus said that we should serve each other, not to have the government serve us.

The woman towards the end of the first video had been leering at some of the opposition’s signs which is fine, it’s a protest, that’s what opposite sides often do. I politely asked her to give me 10 reasons why she supports single payer, after hearing her discuss it with another individual. I genuinely wanted to know! Isn’t this what these things are about, changing hearts and minds? If you can’t discuss why you support something then what is the point of holding a sign in support of something you cannot explain? She wasn’t exactly friendly and refused to answer me or didn’t hear me or something, so I repeated my question. A couple guys behind me asked the same thing, at which point she said that she “doesn’t speak to voices of ignorance” and then proceeded to tell me that she would not talk to me because “she doesn’t speak to people who aren’t on her intellectual level.” I refrained from replying that I would put my answers in terms she could understand, but decided that is solved nothing to be rude in return, only yelling when she stepped on me.

I don’t believe that it was true assault, but at the same time you don’t try to physically move someone with your back and crunch on their feet in the process. Thankfully, no one was hurt, emotionally or physically. I was wearing my Converse; had I gone with my original option of wearing sandals my toes would have been aching afterwards. They called the police – Michelle has video and I’ll show you their response as soon as she uploads – who thanked us for being respectful of traffic, not blocking entrances and exits, and for keeping everything cool just far. “Let’s just continue to keep it that way,” the officer remarked, which we agreed with because that’s all we’ve ever wanted. We applauded him as he returned to his car.

I think he was called back later by one of the business owners because the aforementioned women in the video may have been blocking an entrance to the parking lot where we were located; as we left I heard him asking them to please move and allow traffic to pass.

The point is I truly love and respect differences of opinion. What I don’t respect is when people stand with signs in support of something that they cannot explain – and when politely asked, they revert to name-calling or antagonization. I cannot respect that because it does nothing to honor debate. I was honestly hoping that the woman could answer in an intelligent manner because how awesome would it have been to capture a few minutes of great dialogue on this topic?? Luckily I saw one man who was for this healthcare legislation who did discuss the matter rationally, pictured below. That’s how people learn and exchange ideas. I don’t wish any ill will to the woman with whom I verbally sparred; but do hope that the next time she comes knowing that she has the freedom, and is welcome, to discuss her ideas.

Bill Hennessy, Dana Loesch. Photo courtesy Caroline Mueller

Photo courtesy Caroline Mueller

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The man on the right is against the healthcare legislation and was discussing the matter civilly with the man on the left, who seemed pleasant.

Afterwards we all went to eat at Whole Foods.

*Mark P.’s photos; McCaskill.

*James got video of what happened towards the end; counters kept calling the police I guess because they were upset at having to share sidewalk space with those against the healthcare legislation?

*Dan has photos of the McCaskill event:

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ACTIVE also got this girl telling healthcare legislation opposers “F**K YOU!” and telling people to leave public property. Sad:

She quickly changed her tune when people began approaching the exchange with cameras.

I’ll be updating this with more video and photos.

*From Ed: one of the pro-HC legislation guys was Franklin McCallie, ex-principal of Kirkwood High School and seeming supporter of Cookie Thornton. Thorton was the man who shot up Kirkwood city hall leaving six dead, including the mayor, and two others injured. McCallie’s compassion towards his friend isn’t a bad thing, except that in hindsight, he seemed to me to focus more on how Thornton was offended as opposed to admitting that we are each responsible for our own actions. There are better recourses, none of which need to be tragic in conclusion.